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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:21 pm
by sfboy
Just my 2 cents, but

I LOVE THE "ADULT CONTEMPORARY", if that's what her latest music is being labled as. Just goes to show you that there's no accounting for taste! :D

So I have a question for all of you that don't like Beekeeper, for example. Do you like Little Earthquakes? Under the Pink? Because for me, those two albums are pretty similar to Beekeeper in that the songs are actually, well, songs. You know, verse, verse, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus. For me, most of the songs from Choirgirl (with the exception of Playboy Mommy and Northern Lad, which I adore) and some of Pele and a lot of the studio part of the live/studio CD (can't remember the name right now) are so out there, so free form, so electronic that they don't move me at all. So I'd actually really love to know what you guys don't like about the "adult contemporary" songs. I guess I just really love some structure in my songs, and I'm not a fan of electronica anyway. So do you guys love her early CDs? And how are they similar to Choirgirl?

Thanks.

Kevin

and by the way, the photo is AMAZING!! Very cool.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:34 pm
by MWM
When The Beekeeper first came out, I loved it a lot, but I guess it was just the excitement of having something new. Now I never listen to it. It isn't the songs (except for "Ribbons Undone" and "Ireland" which are sickeningly bad) or their structure that bugs me about it; it's the strict, uninteresting production. There's nothing lively about it. It's all piano (way-too-quiet in the mix), bass, and drums with some guitar-by-numbers noodling and maybe some organ here and there. It sounds like Tori Amos songs as performed by Norah Jones a lot of the time.

I love Little Earthquakes, straight through Scarlet's Walk(although Scarlet's Walk was sort of the beginning of the adult-contemporary sound, the songs were more consistently brilliant). It's the spark in the music that I love about those albums. Everything was vital and intense, and with The Beekeeper is all sounds so flat and lifeless.

Incidentally, the crazier Tori is, the more I like the music, and Boys for Pele is still my favorite of her albums.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:48 pm
by libraryliz
I love Boys for Pele and Under the Pink the most, with Little Earthquakes & Scarlet's Walk coming in 3rd & 4th. Oh and I love Choirgirl Hotel too! Although I almost did forget about it.

I never listen to The Beekeeper and that annoys/disappoints me. At first I thought I wasn't giving it enough of a chance but I just don't love it. Then I thought I'd outgrown Tori. Maybe that's still it. I didn't even know she had a new cd coming out or was making one. But I'll probably give the new cd a chance. I feel bad about giving up on her.
But I'd still go see her in concert - the concerts I've been to have been 2 of the most fabulous of my life. There's just something about her live.

And Matt said it well - the crazier she is, the more I like her too. I loved when she was always talking about her songs"talking to her" and imaginary friends. It was weird and I had to laugh about it but the music was great and I still really enjoy it.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:14 pm
by RightOverThisMess
Another crazy-Tori lover here. BFP is my favorite album of hers.

I just think The Beekeeper is the only album that has truly bad songs on it. (Ireland, Cars and Guitars, Ribbons Undone)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:42 pm
by MWM
I've heard clips of two of the new songs -- "Big Wheel" and "Bouncing Off Clouds."

. . . unfortunately, badass is not the word I'd use to describe them.

"Big Wheel" is sort of like some of the better stuff of The Beekeeper. It has a sort of funk/ragtime feel to it. It's very uptempo with a pretty simple piano/bass/drums thing going on, and it's very catchy, and it does rock harder than The Beekeeper, but the lyrics are embarrassingly horrible. After a dreadful little countdown bridge, she actually sings the line, "I'm a MILF, don't you forget." And she doesn't even say "milf" she says, "M. I. L. F." I was horrified to hear it. I'm not down with the song. It's better, musically speaking, than The Beekeeper (not a lot better, but better), but those lyrics just ruin it.

I like "Bouncing Off Clouds" a whole lot more. I keep listening to it over and over. It's still nowhere near badass, but it's much more enjoyable than The Beekeeper. It's sort of a strange combination of "Carbon," "Concertina," and "Raspberry Swirl." The piano is very beautiful in it, it sounds like it's being played with some kind of weird effect on it. There's a big techno-ish drumbeat through the whole thing. It's way uptempo, but very sad. It kinda makes me think of the music that plays in the old Nintendo version of Tetris. Very 80's and Madonna-ish in a way. One thing I notice about both of these songs, but this one in particular, is the much more impressive use of electric guitar.

So I don't know what to think. Judging by these songs, it will be better than The Beekeeper, but not the massive departure she's been promising or any sort of return to her raw, mad scientish-esque years. I'm just hoping these are the poppy singles and the other songs on the album are much different.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:24 pm
by MWM
Here's the tracklist for Tori's new album:

1. Yo, George 1:25 *
2. Big Wheel 3:18
3. Bouncing Off Clouds 4:08
4. Teenage Hustling 4:00
5. Digital Ghost 3:50
6. You Can Bring Your Dog 4:04
7. Mr. Bad Man 3:18
8. Fat Slut 0:41 *
9. Girl Disappearing 4:00
10. Secret Spell 4:04
11. Devils and Gods 0:53 *
12. Body and Soul 3:56
13. Father’s Son 3:59
14. Programmable Soda 1:25 *
15. Code Red 5:27
16. Roosterspur Bridge 3:58
17. Beauty of Speed 4:08
18. Almost Rosey 5:23
19. Velvet Revolution 1:19 *
20. Dark Side of The Sun 4:16
[* interlude track]

I have no idea what a 41 second song called "Fat Slut" could possibly be like, but I'm certainly intrigued. Also, according to Liz Smith:


Fans of singer Tori Amos—emotionally intense cult star deluxe—can expect a new album coming in April, titled “American Doll Posse.” And Tori has a real doll posse working with her on this disc—four well-known female musicians. One is brunette, two are blonde and there’s a redhead too. Amos won’t give out the names, but insists they are “trailblazers, representing the many facets of a woman."



I guess chances of the redhead being Patty aren't especially good, but it's nice to imagine.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:29 pm
by MWM
Hmm, so here's the album cover, I guess . . .

Image

. . . I umm . . . haha . . . I don't even know what to say exactly.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:58 pm
by gillian
She is so fucking weird.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:57 pm
by MWM
So the album is leaking piece by piece. So far the leaked tracks are

Yo George
Big Wheel
Bouncing Off Clouds
Digital Ghost
You Can Bring Your Dog
Fat Slut
Secret Spell
Body and Soul
Programmable Soda
Beauty of Speed
Dark side of the Sun

I have heard seven of those leaked tracks, and I can honestly say, I can't believe the transformation. This is for the most part nothing like Tori's past two albums. It's almost like an amalgamation of everything she's done before, plus lots of really ass-kicking glam rock. I am so excited to finally get to hear this album in full, and I'm trying not to just download everything that leaks so that when I do get the entire album I can hear it the way it was intended. But for those who thought Tori's awesomest days were over, don't fret. This is pretty much as good as the good old days.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:27 pm
by RightOverThisMess
Thanks for restoring my faith, Matt! I'm holding out, though. I haven't heard any of the leaked songs. The whole thing has been leaked, actually. Someone over on Toriforum just offered to send me the whole thing.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:49 pm
by notalone
I don’t think I ever heard a Tori Amos song. She is well regarded here, so I picked up her box set “A Piano: The Collection” at work ($15). Haven't opened it yet, but its the next box after "What It Is! Funky Soul and Rare Grooves"

A new journey begins…

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:25 pm
by RightOverThisMess
notalone wrote:I don’t think I ever heard a Tori Amos song. She is well regarded here, so I picked up her box set “A Piano: The Collection” at work ($15). Haven't opened it yet, but its the next box after "What It Is! Funky Soul and Rare Grooves"

A new journey begins…


Well, if you like A Piano, I'd suggest buying Little Earthquakes. It's great that you found A Piano for 15 bucks!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:14 pm
by notalone
RightOverThisMess wrote:
notalone wrote:I don’t think I ever heard a Tori Amos song. She is well regarded here, so I picked up her box set “A Piano: The Collection” at work ($15). Haven't opened it yet, but its the next box after "What It Is! Funky Soul and Rare Grooves"

A new journey begins…


Well, if you like A Piano, I'd suggest buying Little Earthquakes. It's great that you found A Piano for 15 bucks!


I thought "Little Earthquakes" was part of "A Piano".
btw We make "A Piano" so if anyone else......

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:40 pm
by RightOverThisMess
notalone wrote:
RightOverThisMess wrote:
notalone wrote:I don’t think I ever heard a Tori Amos song. She is well regarded here, so I picked up her box set “A Piano: The Collection” at work ($15). Haven't opened it yet, but its the next box after "What It Is! Funky Soul and Rare Grooves"

A new journey begins…


Well, if you like A Piano, I'd suggest buying Little Earthquakes. It's great that you found A Piano for 15 bucks!


I thought "Little Earthquakes" was part of "A Piano".
btw We make "A Piano" so if anyone else......


A Piano is a collection of b-sides and other rarities. Little Earthquakes is her first album and definitely her most accessible.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:11 am
by MWM
I didn't get A Piano cause I had so much of it already and it was crazy expensive when it first came out, but if I remember correctly, the first disc of A Piano is Little Earthquakes remastered, (in some cases) remixed, and resequenced, plus several of the B-sides from that time period.